well, I can do a little animating but I rarely do, because firstly I can't put it in a pretty bryce background which would be nice...when I'm stuck with poser I usually do dim lighting to hide the lack of a background or put a photo, both of which kinda crimp an animation also, it takes substantially longer to do an animation than a single image, and you can't "show off" animations nearly as easily. I guess I'm lucky, I just shove them onto a video tape, but I still don't get the feedback from a forum like this methinks if metacreations released a bryce/poser animation plugin then the forum would jump in posts =) Let's all spam ummmm cough I mean send them encouraging e-mails to get this out SewerRat