lhumungus thanks for the comments you left in my gallery. I agree with your comment regarding the lighting in the one scene. If you read my posts lighting is one of those areas I'm constantly working on. As to your remarks about Bryce not being a true (my words not yours) modeling program. I agree. That was an is why I've been searching for a program that would complement Bryce. I refuse to abandon Bryce. I'm a little hopeful that DAZ is working on a fix for Lion. If what I read over at DAZ is true. That being said, even if I can't create true models with Bryce I can a least texture them, arrange the scene in a realistic environment with out having to worry about XY or Z coordinates well I struggle with lighting and atmosphere. Silo is some thing to check out next. The gods willing I'll still be Brycing.