Quote - I think you're attributing a position that nobody over there ever took.

The general opinion you attribute seems to be: Using premade content in CG is cheating.

I think that is not what they think. That's too broad.

I think they think:

Using premade content to finish a job for a client who does not want to pay for new content, or for a situation where the premade content is filler, such as people in a visualization of a new mall, is fine.

Using premade content in a demo reel is cheating and stupid. In fact it is embarrassing. Every studio will laugh you out the door, and this is a fact. You will not get a job in CG. The purpose of a demo reel is to show what you are capable of, 100%. If you are a specialist, for example, an animator, then they will forgive you if the model has a stupid looking head or ugly hands. You should not use a Daz figure even if it looks better. Use your own model. Do your own rigging. Why? It is expected that, as an animator, you know how modeling and rigging works. This is important. If you don't, you will not be effective at communicating solutions to problems when you talk to the model and rigging guys. So you have to demonstrate great skill in your specialty, and tolerable skill in all the others. If you use premade content, you are not doing that, and you are a fail.

Using premade content in a forum dedicated to inspiring each other, one that is almost exclusively about content creation, is just dumb and they let you know.

I won't argue the post Bill, because I do see some of your points. But I only just saw the ad and thought it was laughable, especially in light of what occured earlier.

While many may want to work in the CG industry on a different capacity then "artist". I never said I desired a JOB in CG. Ever. So if that is what is being assumed by the people at CG or here, that is unfortunate, but not my problem. I do well with my art and am not looking to create drama. The ad is just converse to everything that was mentioned about the use of pre-made models. I thought it quite amusing, and yes hypocritical.

I actually see where you are coming from on certain points though. Of course you want to show your skills to obtain employment. But the gun was jumped by those who just took for absolute fact, that someone asking about poser at CG is looking for a job. I can see coming from this mind set why many CG people could be upset.  But as I stated I did not say I wanted a job animating the next 'Avatar' movie, or creating 'Gears of War 4'! And correct me if I am wrong, but CG just stands for computer graphics. It does not say in that anything more.

Asking in another forum about any subject is only broadening your knowledge base. I do not feel I should "...stick to forums that deal with poser users..." because who knows what you might learn by asking outside of the box. I sort of hate "niches" and "labels" that limit your ability to ask, learn, and grow.

I just see that while I posted this to demonstrate that there is a double standard when it comes to the use of pre-made models by the pros, how defensive it makes just about everyone. Shoot some want to talk about weither or not it is "Art". Weither or not your are a "real artist". and all sorts of BS. But if pressed to a deadline, it is ok to use the same castigated format in a pinch. Were I a consumer that read the way the people speak of these things in these forums, I would feel insulted by the attitude.

Lastly, and I guess the point. CG professionals do not like pre-made, pre-textured models. Spit on those poser people who buy them because a "real" pro does not use them. But they will buy and sell them at thousands of dollars there because...  what?  It comes from C4D or Maya? I just thought it was extremely funny.

It was an observation, and only that. So seriously, stop being so darn defensive and sensitive all of you, about what actually if looked at from the right angle was only put out there as a satirical observation. Not an invite to start acting like children and fighting over symantics. Absolutely no sense of the ironic what so ever.

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