the cr2 starts to load and then it simply crashes, if I load the external geometrie .obj it loads fine.

yes I have been trying the DS4 now and yes, he does read some mat files from poser but just the basic, in resume to get a proper shader one have to redo it again, I made some shaders then I can apply them on the props has I load them since they all have the same shaders, ...

  don't know if this is the best option...

thanks RHaseltine