I agree. Poor Ohki: you really have your work cut out for you! Aren't you glad you're making this a commercial venture? You do know we're behind you 120%! Keep the faith: you've got some very excited people waiting for the release of this product!!

LOL thank you Robyn <3

I'm trying to make morphs for her eyes. I managed a cornea bulge, but now I'm at a loss: to reach Iris and Pupils, I have to hide the Cornea polygons; I researched a lot to learn how to do that in ZBrush but it resulted in a morph that didn't change anything in Poser, and if I use Cinema4d with the TrueSymmetry plugin Poser tells me the result has a wrong number of polygons. Sigh I'll move on to another set of morphs for now, I guess.

Eh? Those look like the Iris and Pupil groups to me. See the black circle in the center? That's what I made larger in ZBrush and made no difference when imported into Poser...

Will try again some other time, right now I'm going through posts to actually make a /list/ of the requests I had. I think I lost one over at RDNA, can't remember in which thread it was...

I'm thinking (could be wrong) that's because there is no corresponding poygroup assigned to it in Poser. When i did a polygroup select in Blender, the whole eye was selected except for this bit. I know for morph objects to work, a poly-group name has to be the same for the morph object as for the target geometry. Just thinking that might be the cause.

That's odd... I don't use Blender but here's what I got:

-In Zbrush, only body parts are recognized. When I had Zbrush hide the eye body parts, the entire eyes were hidden.

-In Cinema4d, I can select the polygons of groups, both material and body part groups. Selecting the body part groups for the eyes selected the entire eyes (I did check by hiding the selected polys), selecting the materials was hiding each material correctly.

The orange polys are the ones that were selected when I clicked on one of them and pressed [L]. The faint black ones belong to the above mesh.

"(which selects all related polygons)"

Maybe "related" means they have to be connected to the other polys by vertices? I'm not sure if the irises and pupils are actually "glued" to the rest of the eyes...

That must be it. I'm wondering if that accounts for why your morphs don't appear to apply to the mesh? Dunno - just grasping at straws...

If that's so, it doesn't explain why the morphs didn't apply, no. I must have done something wrong along the way... In any case, I'm now working on some morphs for the arms xD

I'll let you do that and stop bugging you... good luck!

Not bugging me at all, I appreciate that you're trying to help :D

Can you translate the cornea or iris polygons so you can see the iris, then translate them back when you're done shaping?

Quote - Can you translate the cornea or iris polygons so you can see the iris, then translate them back when you're done shaping?

In ZBrush, I have no idea how to do that making sure the cornea polygons would return to their exact same place later...

In C4d, that would be pretty much the same as hiding regularly, only in a harder way. I still get wrong number of vertices because of the TrueSymmetry plugin, so it's moot, I guess I just can't make symmetrical morphs in C4d.

Learning SO MUCH with all this. I just learned how to "paint" a previously-made (or loaded!) morph in Zbrush, so I'm now breaking my FBMs into sections.

Athletic and Fat already divided into Legs, Arms and Torso!

Great work on these, looks like Miss Antonia is well on her way to having a ++morph package.

Thanks! That's my intention! :D

Well, its really a good job and much needed, a standardized set of morphs will go a long way toward ease of support.

I hope this doesn't insult you, but I was looking at the pic a page or two back where you have her sitting down with some of the morphs dialed in and you might want to have Phantom take a look at it, as it looks like the thigh on one side wasn't playing nice with the morphs and the pose.  On the side where she has her arm raised to her head, the bulge on her thigh looks funny to me.  Granted, I'm a lot more point and click than most people around here are, so I could be wrong and it could just be camera angle. But I figured I should say something just in case I wasn't wrong.

I actually noticed that... And took a good look. The way the muscles get "pumped" on an athletic body (which is what you see mostly there) along with the bend makes that... to fix it, I'd need a joint-controlled morph specifically for that body shape and that leg pose. That would become quite the nightmare for cloth creators, so I decided to just let that one slip |:

Ah, okay, well good to know that I wasn't just imagining it anyway. :)

LOL good eye for detail, really ^^

Attached Link: RDNA Elderly-Skin Thread

you can try the elderly shader by BagginsBill

I came up with a very basic Pupil morph just for dilating.  The only problem I ran into is that the contouring of the iris part of the eyes is not circular.  Makes it a longer process to morph the eyes. :)

Updated morph list:

Ankles_Thin
Ankles_Thin (FBM)
Arms_Athletic
Arms_Athletic (FBM)
Arms_Fat
Arms_Fat (FBM)
Arms_Skinny
Arms_Skinny (FBM)
Breasts_Large
Breasts_Large (FBM)
Cheek_BoneFront
Cheek_Chubby
Cheek_Dimples
Chin_Cleft
Chin_Front
Chin_In
Chin_Square
Chin_Thin
Ears_Elf1
Ears_Elf2
Ears_Elf3
Ears_Fins
Ears_Flat
Ears_Kitty
Ears_LobeLong
Ears_Puppy
Ears_Raise
Ears_Size
Eyebrows_Arch
Eyebrows_Deep
Eyebrows_Down
Eyebrows_InnerDown
Eyebrows_OuterUp
Eyebrows_Straight
Eyebrows_Up
Eyes_AgeMarks
Eyes_AlmondInner
Eyes_AlmondOuter
Eyes_Apart
Eyes_Baggy
Eyes_Big
Eyes_Deep
Eyes_DownCenterMove
Eyes_DownInMove
Eyes_DownOutMove
Eyes_EyelidsAsian
Eyes_EyelidsMove
Eyes_Height
Eyes_InnerUp
Eyes_Slant
Eyes_Small
Eyes_UpCenterMove
Eyes_UpInMove
Eyes_UpOutMove
FBM_Anime
FBM_Anime (FBM)
FBM_Athletic
FBM_Athletic (FBM)
FBM_ComicBook
FBM_ComicBook (FBM)
FBM_Fat
FBM_Fat (FBM)
FBM_Old
FBM_Old (FBM)
FBM_Skinny
FBM_Skinny (FBM)
FBM_Slim
FBM_Slim (FBM)
FBM_Voluptuous
FBM_Voluptuous (FBM)
FBM_Young
FBM_Young (FBM)
Face_Anime
Face_Diamond
Face_Heart
Face_InvTriangle
Face_Long
Face_Oblong
Face_Old
Face_Oval
Face_Rectangular
Face_Round
Face_Square
Face_Triangular
Fingers_Thick
Fingers_Thick (FBM)
Forearm_Thick
Forearm_Thick (FBM)
Forehead_Front
Forehead_Lines
Forehead_Wide
Hands_Fat
Hands_Fat (FBM)
Jaw_Long
Jaw_SquareSmooth
Jaw_SquareStrong
Knees_Definition
Knees_Definition (FBM)
Knees_Thick
Knees_Thick (FBM)
Lacrimals_Asian
Lacrimals_Small
Lashes_ArmedLower
Lashes_ArmedUpper
Lashes_LongLower
Lashes_LongUpper
Lashes_PointyLower
Lashes_PointyUpper
Lashes_UpperInnerShort
Legs_Athletic
Legs_Athletic (FBM)
Legs_Fat
Legs_Fat (FBM)
Legs_Skinny
Legs_Skinny (FBM)
Lines_MouthSmooth
Lips_Premade1
Lips_Premade10
Lips_Premade11
Lips_Premade12
Lips_Premade2
Lips_Premade3
Lips_Premade4
Lips_Premade5
Lips_Premade6
Lips_Premade7
Lips_Premade8
Lips_Premade9
Mouth_CornersIn
Mouth_Doll
Mouth_Feline
Mouth_Height
Mouth_LowerCenterDown
Mouth_LowerCurve
Mouth_LowerLarge
Mouth_LowerSides
Mouth_LowerSidesFront
Mouth_LowerThick
Mouth_LowerThin
Mouth_Narrow
Mouth_UpperCSidesBack
Mouth_UpperCenterDown
Mouth_UpperCenterFront
Mouth_UpperCenterUp
Mouth_UpperCurveless
Mouth_UpperLarge
Mouth_UpperSides
Mouth_UpperSidesDown
Mouth_UpperThick
Mouth_UpperThin
Mouth_Wide
Nails_Long
Nails_Long (FBM)
Nails_LongPointy
Nails_LongPointy (FBM)
Nails_LongSquare
Nails_LongSquare (FBM)
Nose_Alien
Nose_BridgeDeep
Nose_BridgeThin
Nose_DownThin
Nose_Feline
Nose_Long
Nose_MiddleDepth
Nose_MiddleThin
Nose_NostrilCenterDown
Nose_NostrilSidesDown
Nose_NostrilUp
Nose_NostrilUpperDown
Nose_NostrilsThin
Nose_Pointy
Nose_Short
Nose_Thin
Nose_TipDepth
Nose_TipThin
Nose_TipUp
Palm_Thick
Palm_Thick (FBM)
Philtrum_Deep
Philtrum_Short
Philtrum_Smooth
Philtrum_Wide
Shins_Thick
Shins_Thick (FBM)
Thighs_Thick
Thighs_Thick (FBM)
Torso_Athletic
Torso_Athletic (FBM)
Torso_Fat
Torso_Fat (FBM)
Torso_Pregnant
Torso_Pregnant (FBM)
Torso_Skinny
Torso_Skinny (FBM)
UpperArm_Thick
UpperArm_Thick (FBM)
Wrist_Thick
Wrist_Thick (FBM)

Two things to notice:

-The app I use to list morphs doesn't detect morph groups and also duplicates full-body morphs in the list (one is the regular name, the other has a "(FBM)" in front). Please ignore this.

-Just now starting to make breast morphs, so don't worry there's only a Breasts_Large there ;)

I managed to make the eyeball morphs... but only because they're very simple. Had to manually simulate symmetry in C4d.

Ok, made many more morphs (errr... MMMM?) today, this is the morph list as it is now:

Ankles_Thin
Ankles_Thin (FBM)
Areola_Depth
Areola_Depth (FBM)
Areola_Large
Areola_Large (FBM)
Arms_Athletic
Arms_Athletic (FBM)
Arms_Fat
Arms_Fat (FBM)
Arms_Skinny
Arms_Skinny (FBM)
Breasts_Cleavage
Breasts_Cleavage (FBM)
Breasts_FullerSides
Breasts_FullerSides (FBM)
Breasts_Gone
Breasts_Gone (FBM)
Breasts_Gravity
Breasts_Gravity (FBM)
Breasts_Implants
Breasts_Implants (FBM)
Breasts_Large
Breasts_Large (FBM)
Breasts_MadonnaShape
Breasts_MadonnaShape (FBM)
Breasts_Pendulous
Breasts_Pendulous (FBM)
Breasts_Shelfy
Breasts_Shelfy (FBM)
Breasts_Small
Breasts_Small (FBM)
Breasts_SoftRound
Breasts_SoftRound (FBM)
Buttocks_Droop
Buttocks_Droop (FBM)
Buttocks_Height
Buttocks_Height (FBM)
Buttocks_Large
Buttocks_Large (FBM)
Buttocks_Press
Buttocks_Press (FBM)
Buttocks_Sides
Buttocks_Sides (FBM)
Buttocks_Straight
Buttocks_Straight (FBM)
Cheek_BoneFront
Cheek_Chubby
Cheek_Dimples
Chin_Cleft
Chin_Front
Chin_In
Chin_Square
Chin_Thin
Ears_Elf1
Ears_Elf2
Ears_Elf3
Ears_Fins
Ears_Flat
Ears_Kitty
Ears_LobeLong
Ears_Puppy
Ears_Raise
Ears_Size
Eyebrows_Arch
Eyebrows_Deep
Eyebrows_Down
Eyebrows_InnerDown
Eyebrows_OuterUp
Eyebrows_Straight
Eyebrows_Up
Eyes_AgeMarks
Eyes_AlmondInner
Eyes_AlmondOuter
Eyes_Apart
Eyes_Baggy
Eyes_Big
Eyes_CorneaBulge
Eyes_CorneaBulge (FBM)
Eyes_Deep
Eyes_DownCenterMove
Eyes_DownInMove
Eyes_DownOutMove
Eyes_EyelidsAsian
Eyes_EyelidsMove
Eyes_Height
Eyes_InnerUp
Eyes_IrisSize
Eyes_IrisSize (FBM)
Eyes_PupilSize
Eyes_PupilSize (FBM)
Eyes_PupilSlit
Eyes_PupilSlit (FBM)
Eyes_PupilSlitHoriz
Eyes_PupilSlitHoriz (FBM)
Eyes_Slant
Eyes_Small
Eyes_UpCenterMove
Eyes_UpInMove
Eyes_UpOutMove
FBM_Anime
FBM_Anime (FBM)
FBM_Athletic
FBM_Athletic (FBM)
FBM_ComicBook
FBM_ComicBook (FBM)
FBM_Fat
FBM_Fat (FBM)
FBM_Old
FBM_Old (FBM)
FBM_Skinny
FBM_Skinny (FBM)
FBM_Slim
FBM_Slim (FBM)
FBM_Voluptuous
FBM_Voluptuous (FBM)
FBM_Young
FBM_Young (FBM)
Face_Anime
Face_Diamond
Face_Heart
Face_InvTriangle
Face_Long
Face_Oblong
Face_Old
Face_Oval
Face_Rectangular
Face_Round
Face_Square
Face_Triangular
Feet_PointyShoes
Feet_PointyShoes (FBM)
Fingers_Thick
Fingers_Thick (FBM)
Forearm_Thick
Forearm_Thick (FBM)
Forehead_Front
Forehead_Lines
Forehead_Wide
Hands_Fat
Hands_Fat (FBM)
Hips_Indent
Hips_Indent (FBM)
Hips_LoveHandles
Hips_LoveHandles (FBM)
Hips_Wide
Hips_Wide (FBM)
Jaw_Long
Jaw_SquareSmooth
Jaw_SquareStrong
Knees_Definition
Knees_Definition (FBM)
Knees_Thick
Knees_Thick (FBM)
Lacrimals_Asian
Lacrimals_Small
Lashes_ArmedLower
Lashes_ArmedUpper
Lashes_LongLower
Lashes_LongUpper
Lashes_PointyLower
Lashes_PointyUpper
Lashes_UpperInnerShort
Legs_Athletic
Legs_Athletic (FBM)
Legs_Fat
Legs_Fat (FBM)
Legs_Skinny
Legs_Skinny (FBM)
Lines_MouthSmooth
Lips_Premade1
Lips_Premade10
Lips_Premade11
Lips_Premade12
Lips_Premade2
Lips_Premade3
Lips_Premade4
Lips_Premade5
Lips_Premade6
Lips_Premade7
Lips_Premade8
Lips_Premade9
Mouth_CornersIn
Mouth_Doll
Mouth_Feline
Mouth_Height
Mouth_LowerCenterDown
Mouth_LowerCurve
Mouth_LowerLarge
Mouth_LowerSides
Mouth_LowerSidesFront
Mouth_LowerThick
Mouth_LowerThin
Mouth_Narrow
Mouth_UpperCSidesBack
Mouth_UpperCenterDown
Mouth_UpperCenterFront
Mouth_UpperCenterUp
Mouth_UpperCurveless
Mouth_UpperLarge
Mouth_UpperSides
Mouth_UpperSidesDown
Mouth_UpperThick
Mouth_UpperThin
Mouth_Wide
Nails_Long
Nails_Long (FBM)
Nails_LongPointy
Nails_LongPointy (FBM)
Nails_LongSquare
Nails_LongSquare (FBM)
Neck_Thin
Neck_Thin (FBM)
Nipples_Large
Nipples_Large (FBM)
Nipples_Show
Nipples_Show (FBM)
Nose_Alien
Nose_BridgeDeep
Nose_BridgeThin
Nose_DownThin
Nose_Feline
Nose_Long
Nose_MiddleDepth
Nose_MiddleThin
Nose_NostrilCenterDown
Nose_NostrilSidesDown
Nose_NostrilUp
Nose_NostrilUpperDown
Nose_NostrilsThin
Nose_Pointy
Nose_Short
Nose_Thin
Nose_TipDepth
Nose_TipThin
Nose_TipUp
Palm_Thick
Palm_Thick (FBM)
Philtrum_Deep
Philtrum_Short
Philtrum_Smooth
Philtrum_Wide
Shins_Thick
Shins_Thick (FBM)
Teeth_DemonLower
Teeth_DemonLower (FBM)
Teeth_DemonUpper
Teeth_DemonUpper (FBM)
Teeth_FangsLower
Teeth_FangsLower (FBM)
Teeth_FangsUpper
Teeth_FangsUpper (FBM)
Thighs_Thick
Thighs_Thick (FBM)
Torso_Athletic
Torso_Athletic (FBM)
Torso_Fat
Torso_Fat (FBM)
Torso_Pregnant
Torso_Pregnant (FBM)
Torso_Skinny
Torso_Skinny (FBM)
UpperArm_Thick
UpperArm_Thick (FBM)
Waist_Narrow1
Waist_Narrow1 (FBM)
Waist_Narrow2
Waist_Narrow2 (FBM)
Waist_Shallow
Waist_Shallow (FBM)
Wrist_Thick
Wrist_Thick (FBM)

And I'm out of ideas. Do you guys think those are enough? I can't wait to wrap this up and make them work injected.

Just at a glance you appear to have pretty much what I would think would be analogous to Morphs++ for V4, which was one of the key features of V4. This will do heaps to place Antonia into her rightful spot as permiere Poser figure.

Always so kind, Robyn, thank you ;)

Suggestions for the name of the pack, please? Antonia Morphs++ would be way too much copypasta.

Wonderful selection of morphs, great job and should do much toward making using Antonia even more of a pleasure.

Thank you! :3

Quote - Always so kind, Robyn, thank you ;)  

Suggestions for the name of the pack, please? Antonia Morphs++ would be way too much copypasta.

You're welcome, Ohki!

Names. Oh dear. I so suck at this.

"Antonia Unleashed"? (not all that original either)

"Make Antonia Yours"? (is that a name of a product or a statement?)

"Antonia's Beauty Boutique"? (ummmmm huh?)

"Antonia Gifted" (reaching, here, now, aren't we?)

Maybe someone else? :blink:

I should make this a poll. LOL!

Names are really tough.  There isn't much that hasn't been used in one form or another.

Antonia Ultimate?

Antonia Enhanced?

Antonia Plus?

Antonia Unlimited Potential?

Choices for Antonia?

meh, think I better leave this to the more imaginative. :)

Antonia Versatila or Antonia Morphing Polygon ary my suggestions.

From the previous postings, I like "Choices for Antonia" best.

Antonia +-  or Antonia Superstar       ;)

or... Morphonia but it would be CDI copypasta.

Quote - Always so kind, Robyn, thank you ;)

 

Suggestions for the name of the pack, please? Antonia Morphs++ would be way too much copypasta.

Advanced Morph pack

Good one.

Someone at another forum sugested "I'm Every Woman", which I'm also considering.

OK!

Haven't been out of my crypt in ages and the damn bot here has refused to alert me of the proceeds on the original Antonia thread.Then I see this and had to jump over.

Antonia Pasta Mia is a wonderful name for these morphs. A morph for every flavor of Pasta on the world tastebud!

Love these. Making an already wonderful figure sooooo much better and versatile makes me grin like a stupid cat that just swallowed the forbidden canary!

When are these available already. You got me drooling all over my shirt and sweats and my couch and....damn even on my keyboard!

Have mercy...gimme...gimme....gimme!

Bluuuuuuush

Well, you arrived just the day I deemed them finished. Now I have to make them injectable though, which should take quite a while.

Errm. Thank you :D

"Antonia Extended" ?

The only morphs I could suggest (and maybe I'm late to do so ) might be an "outie" navel morph, pointy elbows, and dimpled knees.  Assuming there are enough vertices for something like knee dimples.  :unsure:

Not late... gladly I was procrastinating here with Poser loaded, trying to gather patience to begin with the PMD xD will try to make these then!

How many morphs do you have in all?

"Antonia Complete" comes to mind.

Eh... numbers? Ok, will count them later xD

Alas, can't do pointy elbows... those only appear when the elbow is bent, and I'm avoiding joint-controlled morphs altogether. But your ideas gave me a few more ideas.

Done:

-Navel_Outie
-Navel_Gone
-Knees_Dimples
-Back_Dimples

There aren't enough vertices to do any real torso definition morphs, are there?  Otherwise, I'd suggest some muscle definition morphs for that area.  :unsure:

"Antonia Deluxe Edition" (looking at my DVD shelf :laugh:)

"Antonia Gold"

"Antonia: Aphrodite"

"Antonia Mega Pack"

"Antonia: Shapeshifter"

LMAO seems I'll have a harder time picking a suggested name than I would coming up with a name myself xD

There's a full torso version of the Athletic morph. Should I split that too? Maybe Athletic Back, Athletic Abs, Athletic Shoulders?...

Will there be any nibble lower lips left and right like The GIRL introduced to Poser with her version 1 release?

Would be nice to also have morphs like Posermatic breast shape and motion morphs for our girl.  :)

I'm not making expressions or motion morphs, only shaping morphs... Posermatic breast shape? Images please?

Oh, you mean the Natural Gravity Morphs? I think that's quite achievable with the Breasts_Gravity I've already included. But perhaps I should add rotation morphs for the breasts too...

Quote - There's a full torso version of the Athletic morph. Should I split that too? Maybe Athletic Back, Athletic Abs, Athletic Shoulders?...

I was thinking thinking more in terms of defintion for the serratus muscles, the rectus abdominus, eternal/internal oblique muscles, transverse abdominus, all those muscles that refuse to show themselves effectively on my own personal torso.  :lol:  (Assuming any of those are things.  Google may have misled me regarding naming.  :lol:)

But I suppose if couldn't hurt to allow basic bulking and shaping morphs for the torso to be dialed in separately from the same for the arms and legs.  Or with differing intensities for torso, arms, and legs.

......uh....yeah!

When he was first offering his morphs I begged him for a year to include a set for V2. He finally did create them and posted them for sale at DAZ. Love them and use them a lot along with several sets for V4 and similar generation female figures.

Seems a great way to add a variety of breast motion and/or shape/size breast functions I think.

I apologize in advance for seeming ungrateful but everyone that has read my posts will attest I am just harmlessly clueless and anxious. When do you think some of these great morphs will be available?