Hi Bernieloehn, First thing I want to say is that I respect your opinion. But to be honest, I don't understand why you are angry. I think to most (all ?) people try to make nice images. Some try to make art, some try to make pictures. Some you will like, some you will dislike. But I don't think that this is a reason to get angry. If you don't like a picture someone made, that tell the person how to make the picture better. And if the person wants to get better and agrees with you, than that is ok. And when the person disagree it is also ok. But the main thing is that people should be allowed to make their own work. If someone only trows some terrain, some trees and a nude into a picture and that is it ... ok, that that is it. If that person likes it (side remark ... I don't mean adult oriented material ... I think this should not be posted in renderosity, because there are other means to show that) then that is as it is. Try to point out the problems in a picture, but keep in mind that most people here (I presume) are only hobbiests (and some are very very good :) ) and they try to make nice images and even try to get better (I know I am) so I don't see why anyone should get angry. I think that the main reason I like Vue is that I can concentrate on make nice pictures that I like. I am glad when other people like my pictures also and I put some time into it the pictures. But it is still a hobby and when I think a picture is finished and I like it ... then I am a happy man :). And it is ok for everyone to tell me that it can be improved (because I like to learn). But "complaining" about pictures alone is not a way to make it better (IMHO). Sorry for the long reply, Bye, Angelo ps. The URL points to my pictures. No real site yet, but hopefully that will change (soon).