those are good ideas cin- :) i'm not sure how that would work...but i'll think some on it and see what i can work out with the store, or with individuals :) gladiator, thank you too :) i am working on dork at this moment, trying to come up with something for him...but fyi, my jewellery works with vickie, with very slight scaling on some pieces. i am still trying to get up the nerve to work on clothes for her again...the first package i did for her nearly killed me lol, when i kept trying to bash my head against her JPs!! G