I can certainly sympathize with anyone who is frustrated with buggy software (Windows ME anyone?) but I've found RDS and it's ancestors Ray Dream 3D & Corel Dream to be fairly stable and reliable on a Pentium 150 under Windows 95A with 64 megs of ram. I didn't say they were quick, but my most common error is "memory suballocation error 4" which I believe is caused by my own impatience - not allowing the sreen time to refresh, etc. Having said that, I will gladly agree that Metacreations burned every bridge in their marketing of RDS 5.5 and in selling their beta version of Carrara as a finished product. I believe they knew they were going out of business and were scraping for every dollar with no thought for their customers. Now it's up to Eovia to rebuild those bridges. The free bug fix is a good start, as is their bargain-basement upgrade price. The opinions expressed in this forum on the bug fix and upgrade are encouraging so far, but as a user who is very pleased and comfortable with RDS, I think I'll wait a bit longer before upgrading - but that's mostly because I'll need a system upgrade to run Carrara. That's my two cents Jim Z. a.k.a. Julian Boolean