- yep, we need multiple undos 2. you can zoom in all you want! Just move your camera forward 3. it steers like a cow... and takes a lot of practice... I use a new technique when I'm working on faces... I work in the inverse, and try to include any materials not need... then invert it to get what I wanted. 4. that's a propack thing... takes practice, a lot of practice... have you read my tutorial for the grouping tool? It's over at www.3dcc.com in the tutorials section. It's helped a lot of folks in the past with the basics. Doug
I came, I rendered, I'm still broke.