Thanks guys! Wow, $ 129 dollars for the import module!! No kidding is better to dish out for Vue complete, I first need to master the program a bit, now I find it fustrating, so much computer power for so little. I know it is a wonderful software, I have seen the artwork but right now I am getting subpar renderings and it seems that the tutorials I have seen require Ecosystem ( ANOTHER $100) but I'll get there. I may post some images and hopefully get some tips from you guys.