wolf359 opened this issue on Nov 22, 2011 · 296 posts
pjz99 posted Wed, 23 November 2011 at 3:21 PM
Blackhearted:
Quote - as has been pointed out though, i believe simply implementing subdivision on its own would have little to offer right now in terms of figure realism. as for reducing memory consumption, is this really so imperative these days when you can buy 16 gigs of DDR3 for under $80? i was working with scenes of roughly the same complexity on an AMD K6II with 384 megs of RAM... nowadays the average cellphone has many times the processing power. the main memory/processing hits are still raytracing, reflections/refractions and IDL, and AFAIK these wont be improved much by subD.
Actually raytracing, IDL and a number of other features don't work well with Reyes polygon smoothing and work substantially better with a higher poly "real" mesh (e.g. given by subdivision). These are not little things, they're fairly major problems like shadow outline (raytraced shadows don't take into account polygon smoothing at all) or artifacts with IDL when rendering with polygon smoothing. I may misunderstand, but I believe that since the geometry created by Reyes poly smoothing doesn't really "exist" with respect to raytracing, some or all of these problems may not be solvable. For example:
On the memory usage, unfortunately P9 is still 32-bit, so it still matters a great deal. Plus a lot of users are still on 32-bit operating systems. Perhaps it would matter less if/when everyone is 64-bit everywhere, but today isn't that day.
Note I'm not crapping on the many great advances in newer versions of Poser, far from it, just gosh, wouldn't it be nice to have integrated subdivison too? As a content creator you're really not interested in such a possibility yourself?
JoePublic:
Quote - Is THIS the direction you want for Poser ?
As opposed to what you are prone to repeating, that all new features are useless/scary/incomprehensible, yeah, I would like features to improve and to have new features added. If you seriously think that anything beyond Poser 4 is just extraneous garbage, maybe you should just stick to Poser 4 and be happy. I mean really, what goal are you working towards here? Time travel? Go back in the past so that these terrifying new features aren't available? And again, those are your personal preferences.
Quote - Weightmapping is just a functionality of Genesis.
uh what exactly are you saying with that? did you think DAZ invented weightmapping? nobody is interested in weightmapping outside of Genesis users? help me out here, wtf