Indeed, though I'm not sure I'd call anyone in those 2 threads "hardcore D|S users" exactly - after all, anyone reading (or posting to) them has to have more than half an interest in Poser compatability for Genesis, as that's the subject at hand. So they must all - or at least mostly - be Poser users, I'd have thought. though possibly joint Poser/DAZ Studio users. Would that mean they are "softcore DS users"? ;)