Ok..lol. Let me rephrase that so it seems less....sarcastic.

I have tried every version of DS since it came out. Before DS3, I couldn't even keep it open long enough to do anything. DS3A did a lot better on my equipment, but I spent more time searching for stuff than I did making stuff...lol. Now that DS4 is out, I'm just tired...lol.

I will admit the IDL bug in Poser 8 is a doosie. It frustrates me daily. As far as I'm concerned, unchecking "Visible in Raytracing" is NOT a workaround. Try doing that for a tree full of transmapped leaves...that now casts no shadow. Having said that, I've found Poser to be rock solid otherwise ;).

Laurie