Ahhh, yes. I missed this.  As I see in a picture from Martin he's in the same situation like I am. A "wild", swirly swarm is not the big problem, but a "ordered" swarm, as most fish swarms, become very difficult when the objects should face the same direction ... You have to imagine a sphere ...  at the equator all objects have to rotate around a point in the middle of the sphere and the objects are parallel to the sphere surface. But on any other point of the sphere the object should be upright (= no more parallel to the sphere surface), but also have to rotate around the y-axis of the sphere ... That was the plan, to built a "object ball" .

Perhaps this only possible with Vue 10 and the vector path option ...  :huh: