Thank you for once again pointing this out. Will be trying out VSS, and looking forward to EZskin. Just bought a new character and believe it or not, it had scatter and blinn. Very nice.

However, when I turned on the hardware shading, the tongue and teeth lit up like a Christmas tree. A very small amount of ambient in both. Remove and a very nice character results.

The new Poser must be quite a challange for the veterans. Have to rething a lot of old ways. After a few months of using PP2012, I was playing around with Poser 8 today. What a world of difference. I plan on putting that on my laptop, as PP2012 specs. too robust for my budget.