Rand, I honestly thought I was as bad as they got. I stand corrected. Really, reading this makes me feel much better about myself. :)

I've been online for all of 12 years. When I first came on line I was running McAfee and had my first virus in a month. Reinstalled everything, started using avast. Being a 51 year old bachlor I vist some way off color sites, surf the web a lot, always curous about everything. Never picked up a virus, hell I don't even scan for them any more. So I am clueles why people are so terrified of viruses. Yes folks that is 1 in 12 years.

I read the carrara annoucment that C8.5 wont need Studio 4 installed and will have it's own CMS; big wooped de do on the CMS. Just something to uninstall. ;)