Well I already exported the uvs and stripped out a lot of morphs from the cr2 including the V2 morph. I just downloaded the redistributable cr2 for V2P4, I should probably do that one instead and link it to the new object people will get by applying the uvs. I'm still in the learning processes of all this. It does make a smaller zip to export uvs instead of pcf the obj. I had thought you did the JCM versions of P4Fem and Male, but maybe it was someone else. I have the files, I have them loaded. I just now don't know who made them. Before the P4 Version of Victoria came out, I mostly did nudes because her clothing was limited and not reliable (the ankle boots would ball up in a wad when I went to pose). Yes, the P4 version is about clothing and I'm glad I got her. When I work with Victoria now it's only the P4 version. Liz