Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Hi! DAZ 3D wants to chat.

DAZ_Rand opened this issue on Dec 09, 2011 · 1133 posts


ssgbryan posted Mon, 19 December 2011 at 9:12 PM

Quote - I wouldn't be so quick to agree. The vast bulk of Poser's content revolves around Ye Old Victoria, and has done so for well over a decade. I mean, c'mon... without looking it up, do you remember "Winter Queen"? How much of a market in Rendo revolves around "Jessica"? 

I think Smith Micro has a lot more at stake than even they are willing to recognize, and unless someone steps up to the plate and coughs up a figure that is even partially as recognized, accepted, and supported? Well, it's easy to figure out from there. Like I've said often before; until Smith Micro comes up with a figure that can rival Victoria, they're going to be hostages to content.

( Will Antonia be that figure? IMHO, not until the face and body shape become a lot more flexible. Having kick-ass joints alone just isn't going to cut it - don't believe me? Ask Anton how Apollo turned out for him. )

  1. Winter Queen - Came with Poser 6 - Not what I was interested in doing, but it is (still) hiding out in my runtime.

2.  Jessica & Apollo - that was then, this is now.  The state of the art has moved quite a bit from when I came in at the end of 2004.  Poser & DS users have options that simply were not available back then. 

3.  Clothing - Problem solved.  On the Poser side of the house, there is Wardrobe Wizard, Xdresser4, the Morphing clothes program, and all of the extendability that Python is bringing to Poser makes the concept of replacing a wardrobe irrelevent.  Any female figure can use any piece of clothing in my runtimes, due to Wardrobe Wizard.  All of my male figures can wear any male figure's wardrobe.  They are not 100 percent perfect solutions, but any issues after running a product through WW has been easily fixed with the morph brush.  I love that brush.

DS has an autofit tool that will move a base Gen4 clothing item to Genesis.  One direction only & you lose the movement morphs in the process.  To be fixed sometime "DAZ Soon".

3.  I see DAZ at a greater risk than SM.  As a Poser user, outsourcing what I view as core functionality to third parties is a reciepe for disaster. DS4 installs will be like snowflakes - everyone is different, based on what plugins are installed.  I wish DS users all the best in dealing with that.  I don't see DS4 moving beyond the hobby market for the simple reason of no documentation.  

DS4 simply doesn't have the capabilities of Poser Pro 2012 or even Poser 5 for that matter.  I need dynamic clothing more than I need Genesis.  The Poser Hair room may need a good tutorial to use, but the capabilities are there.  The new lighting system is just incredible.  There is a lot more going on in the Poserverse than in the DS4 universe, because, there is a larger body of folks who know what they are doing than in the DS4 universe.  Who is the BBaggins of the DS4 community?  Who has the capabilities of making a completelly new figure that takes full advantage of the DS4 capabilities.

All DS4 has going for it IS Genesis.  I haven't seen a single Genesis figure that makes me go "Yeah, I need that in my runtime."  And that doesn't even address just the cost of Genesis, which at my last count, was $160 to get all of the genes (V5, S5, etc - some of which are no longer available - which is another issue I have.  I don't play that "buy it now or it's gone forever."  It isn't "gone forever", there are simply less legal ways to get it.  And the people that use those methods will happily click through & ignore the EULA.