Quote - I find it quite interesting that most of the people that post on the rendo forum from the DAZ forum are some how affiliated with DAZ. Ether a DAZ rep, or a mod, or a PA.

Interesting yeah, but not a lot. If you'd let me, I could speculate that the reason for this is that most DAZ forum dwellers are fairly happily dwelling over there - what's their incentive, their REASON, to come and post on the rendo forum about DAZ? If they're here as well, they're probably posting about Renderosity-related stuff. That would bias DAZ forumites in these threads towards those who have a particular interest in, well, DAZ - quite naturally I'd have thought.

Right there I see some value in speculation. Without it, it seems like DAZ is coming here mob-handed. With it it's possible to reason that there's the possibility that no such thing is happening. To dismiss speculation out of hand is not necessarily a good thing.

Personally I'm pretty happy that you've flagged your speculation as speculation and not fact. I hope I have done as well, as clearly. I'm a little dismayed at how quickly tempers seem to rise on either side of a discussion about DAZ/Smith Micro/Renderosity as, IMHO, it really isn't necessary.

Quote - As I assumed when I started this thread, this forum is not the forum to discuss this, but this subject can't possably be discussed on the forum it needs to be discussed on. How can DAZ possably know how people feel about something if the topic can't be dicussed on the DAZ forum?

This I have to disagree with. Quite aside from the thread that Richard mentioned earlier - on the very topic of installers, and including comments about "steamishness" and so on - I have found over the years that critical posts of mine do not tend to vanish overnight. On the whole - aparet from some recently that DAZ have been very unprofessional about - I have found that if a post of mine gets deleted it can be traced back to the way I have worded things. I HAVE had posts removed, and on reflection many of them probably did not truly deserve having the "submit" button pressed in the first place. And provocation is not really a good excuse.

However, when I comport myself with the good grace that my mother raised me to exhibit, I have found myself able to express anything relevant. This has included being somewhat scornful of DAZ on numerous occasions, without anything like a rebuke.

Maybe DAZ just like me though. That's got to be taken into consideration. I am, after all, a lovely bloke :D