“I haven't seen any character or shape on any other female figure that couldn't be done with V4 - my opinion only, but that's what I believe.” I tend to agree, though I wouldn’t swear to it in court :-) Unless you’re doing nudes or spandex, I’m not sure I would see much difference. Maybe a dedicated ‘heavy’ figure would be good because it bulking up may be one of the more difficult types to do well. I think that DAZ did a pretty good job with deriving Laura and Maddie from the V3 mesh and BH’s GND shows that you use the same mesh to create a more idealized athletic shape. That’s not to say that a bespoke child or athletic figure might not do the job even better, but again, under clothing how much of a difference is there? A couple of stock morph-able bodies with interchangeable heads sounds more appealing to me than many bodies. Miki’s face is unique to me and some of the other Japanese models seem more realistically Asian than their DAZ morphed counterparts, but it’s the heads, not the bodies per se that make them desirable IMO. Variety has a huge appeal though. I like having different figures. To me the ‘accessories’ are the major factor though. First and foremost, textures. There are some nice free ones but in general the best ones seem to be commercial. I have a few that I use all the time and being able to use them on different figures is important, thus my question about a V4 mapped version of Antonia. Clothing is also important. The easier it is to transfer without major hassles is important, especially for those who, for whatever reason, don’t use dynamic clothing. I love being able to use the same textures for V3, Laura and Maddie, use many morphs between them and get pretty good results with clothing. N.B. As for football, now that the Steelers have lost, football is dead to me. I wouldn’t cry in the unlikely event that Houston won it all though.

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