On topic: V4WM pleases me! Anastasia(WM) pleases me! Antonia pleases me-if I want to render a woman who has average body fat. The overall proportions of V4 are not "average"-if they could be rescaled in any way without breaking the WM-then maybe I would only "need" V4. If I could easily and quickly modify the WM so she bends equally well with any body proportion then I could do with only V4. In one sense-I prefer V4 to Antonia because she has more polygons for morphing her face-in particular-but then V3's face seems more dense in polygons than V4's. Anyone who sees it from a different perspective- is WRONG! Just kidding!

IMcKenzie

You are WRONG!! The REAL answer is 4= (6 +4)- 6 you are clearly a bad person who hates little kittens-and dresses funny! :-)  KIDDING! But you have encapsulated my thoughts on the subject!

Quote - I think one problem we have here, and this is not aimed at any one person or group:

Person A says '4 = 2+2'

Person B says '4 = 2*2' or '5 = 6-1'

Person A says ' You are trying to bash/put down/stifle my choice etc.' 

If you look at what is being said objectively, that really doesn't happen that often. Expressing a different preference or view of the facts isn't , or shouldn't be ipso facto viewed as an attack or some kind of attempt at censorship. Too many of us (myself included) have become so reflexive that we assume the worst without making a serious enough effort to even listen to what the other person is saying. I've spent an hour on three paragraphs trying to second guess the many ways that someone might misinterpret what I was saying, sometimes to no avail. Too much reading between the lines to find what we expect or maybe want to be there when it isnt. These figures/programs/companies have become like proxies in some kind of bizarre, zero sum tribal warfare.You cvan ban politics and religion but we only find some other arena for combat.