Well, I've been on for a year but had a LONG absence in the middle, only coming back now. Please excuse me. I just downloaded one of BB's shaders, but don't see a difference when I apply it...I must be doing something wrong; oh well, back to instructional manuals....:) And, I imagine that P9 and P2012 are outrageously expensive??? I'd love to get them but already P8 was totally overpriced.