Hm. you are rightIguess it would not be very backwards compatible. However, with regard to performance, one could query the figure for an actor map, asking which global vertices the actor map currently containes. t wouldbring another indirection, but one wouldnt have to process the entire figure - only the verts tha belong to the current actor map. bulge, hm, so bulge is not defined byjoint settings only.. i shall look out for shrdavid. We need anopensource cr2 interpreter :D