Thanks Fasttraxx, I must have forgotten them-certainly been to your site. Off to get the chicken (to the tune of "I'm off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz)-tra la. (Oh, gosh, I feel the shadow of Radart overtaking me-::sigh::--I'm becoming a recruit in the army of smilies, dragons and faeries--I must get back to my normal demeanor) picnic