it seems that DAZ is off line I have not been able to log on all day. 

 any way if you buy a computer at 10am and walk out the door with it, by the time you got home your $3000.00 new computer is already out of date, what do you do,take it back?? NO you live with it untill you can get another better and faster and it too will be out of date by the time you get it home, point is DAZ is trying to gather more hidden artest who are out there to join us and creat bigger and better stuff, yes i have problems with DAZ4 but i like it and for me the problems with DAZ is byfar, far less then i have trying to work my way through POSER!  to help you all get over this, just get up go to the mirror ,look and say , ***"God I love you!" *** then come back and creat some great art.