i ended up reinstalling again...using the classic install...now all is in the p8 folder..and v4 works....although I started a render with some heavy hair, and it was slow so I went to bed..woke up and it hadnt rendered. my power settings had the computer go to sleep after 20 minutes .... new system...a lot of kinks to work out.

first time with W7...I dont like it at all compared to XP . too much control by the system. All kinds of security BS...popups everywhere tha tthis or that is trying to do something.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle, 1854