Wow! Superior work Litst! My hat is off to you for your grasp of the vertex modeler (we call it the mesh form modeler in RDS). That's the one tool that has totally escaped me. I always thought it was alien technology intended to identify the geniuses of earth so that the invaders could take them up to the mother ship and... Well, never mind that. I'm sure you'll be fine. Are you going to do a body or is that a project for another time? Again, great work. Jim Z. a.k.a. Julian Boolean