2 things: First you'll have to increase the poly count where the round edges are, second It's always better to use "Quads" instead of "Triangles", when your mesh is going into Poser... It's not Mas's fault! Poser does this!! It's smoothing algorythm is not up to par with MAX's smoothing groups... Maybe in Poser 5, this will be fixed... It just takes a little bit of preplanning before you do your mesh... Personally, i only work with Patches & primitives in MAX. Nurbs are Ok, but have a tendency to give unpredictable results! My 2 cents! :-) Good Luck! Marco