Thanks for letting me know, I thought it might be a case of making it myself... oh well, thats ok... will have to play with that a bit. Thanks for letting me know. And thanks also re the shader on DAZ, i did see that before, and when I looked at Pauls (vendor) own website he did mention in his FAQs that you could use it to resell, but said that because the shader is based on the lighting used at the time it wouldn't give the best results. So that's why I thought maybe someone knows of one that might work. but guess it's a make it yourself case, which is ok. :)

Thanks again

Fred