Thanks for that, shall take you up on that offer, can't get into my poser program right now...grrrrr...., as doing some changes on the pc, hence I couldnt try it yet, thought would have been finished with the work by now (always takes longer than you think, doesnt it)... but should be all finished soon and then I can really get down with this one, so if ok with you, I shall contact you, probably within the next few days or so, maybe I could then send you a link to one of the characters I am working on so you can see the nodes etc and see if it could think it's even ok to do. Thanks again for your help, and will have to ask more about some of the things you said, was I want to make sure it is usuable to as many people as possible, so will have to find out more from you.... thanks again. :)