Yup, exactly what I thought. And you are correct the mesh must be fixed in max. It is not nearly as horrible as you think though. This thread probably should be in the Max forum, but it's here, so let me try to solve your problem. Open your object in max and if it is not an editable mesh, add that modifier. In face edit, delete the faces from the front. (EEK!) Use the create tool to create the faces in a more orderly manner, like you said the corners need to be something like your picture. (Not as bad as it sounds) Repeat for the other side. THE BONUS ROUND.... You may want to bevel the edges to get a smoother render in Poser. Select all the edges around the edge of your sign. Use the bevel tool to create a beveled edge around the sign. This will make it render much better in max. FINALLY If this all seems a bit over whelming, send me the file and I can fix it for you in abuot 10 minutes flat. Then you can see what you are trying to accomplish and will have less trouble next time. nerd@nerd3d.com