I guess you nailed it. I decided to try remapping Koz's Alice Hair and see what I could do with that, and it worked fine. As far as the default hair, I was just using that as a test. Now I know why no one else has done anything with it! Well, at least now I know what to do and what to avoid in making my own hair props. Painting the texture maps may take me a while to master (though I have been practicing), but we WILL have more quality hair props, dammit! And I'm going to focus on male hair to start with. SOMEBODY'S got to do it. Poor P4 Dork ain't never gonna git none with some ugly lump of clay on his head. Like he doesn't have enough problems already ;) Thanks for your help.