My apologies, thefixer.  It is possible that you are reading into my note a personal slap at you. I do not intend to say that you are a hater (and did not say so, if you read closely).

What I said is that generic and vitriolic comments such as yours do bring out and seem to cheer on those that are self-identified as Vue haters. There are two regulars who post here often and are self-identified as such. Then we end up with a cycle of name-calling, with nothing actually to do with the specifics of Vue. Having worked with this forum for some eighteen-nineteen years now, I think this is an observation that is just a simple fact. Nothing more meant by it than that.

It is true that bruno's first comment provoked you into name-calling and disparaging remarks about all us "fanboys", which should be most of us who visit this forum, yes? (Although "fanboy" is rather a disparaging term - a slander, technically, yes?)

However, have you considered that your original comment/phrasing provoked bruno in the exact same manner?

I know that I find it provoking, personally. I don't find that 'anything' many people have worked on for years and years to try to make as good and unique a thing as possible - worthy of being called "a pile of shit."  That utterly demeans all their years of work, and their intentions. It is a totally conclusive judgment that ends all conversations. 

Given the sharp meaning of this kind of statement, and the fact that it is a total conversation ender, should you actually be surprised that it provokes others into a response - a challenge to you? Or, have you perhaps had a poor education as to the true meaning of words?

I am truely a forester. I've spent my adult life in the field, in rough and sometimes dire conditions and always in the language of rough men doing a rough job. There is a time and a place for comments such as "this is a pile of shit." I've used that phrase several hundreds of times myself. This forum is not that kind of place, and Vue is not a muddy hole in cold driving rain that ten of us are going to have to go down into hanging onto a muddy rope. Vue is, rather, the strong endeavor of many talented people trying to build as good a product as possible. I don't think you honor that effort or those men and women very well. I don't think you offer constructive criticism, by your comment, or any useful piece of information. I think this forum is where we come to find useful information, and good criticisms by which we all can benefit.

You can take that as  'fanboy comment", or in any way you wish. But if you do so, perhaps you are not truely listening to what is being said here.