At the risk of contributing to a Renderosity Vendor Admiration Society, I have to say I second the Kudos. I've bought $400-500.00 worth of Poser products from the Renderosity Marketplace, & sites that use this forum to announce & develop their products. I would have to single out Deimos & lalverson, for offering free premiums to their customers, George Deep for giving MegaMike purchasers special attention, & personal messages & eager responses to communications from their customers from LordsWarrior, 3DMenagerie, David Howard, and especially the incredibly responsive & patient Sharon at SAMS3D! These are just the ones that come immediately to mind, but if anyone is considering ordering from any of these, I can say they have my endorsment for being truely class acts, & professional in the best sense of the word! (This is not to belittle the quality of the products I've gotten from others, I'm only singling out those whom I've had contact with beyond the product itself.) leather-guy