Gee Phil, you always amaze me with your awsome work. I, for one, have always been an avid "user" of all your stuff, and I know one thing; if I ever get rich from some of my poser renderings, you'll be quite wealthy too, cause I'd owe you big time just for using all your neat stuff!! And, you know what? I never have really ever thanked you much for making all those great items for us to use, so.... now is as good a time as any..... THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!!! You really do create some of the best stuff. I have a whole section dedicated just to you on my hard drive. Have a happy day Phil, and be well... Radart:)