Oh c'mon guys how many Victoria renders have gravity deflying breasts?  Isn't that the look that women are going to the plastic surgeons for these days?    I think you're doing a great job Shane, I know it's a work in progress--be true to your own artistic vision.  It is great to have figures that can be both aesthetically appealing and realistic looking at the same time.  I think the pitfall of the native Poser people is that the artist probably strove for what would be considered "realistic" but in doing so created people who have something subtly wrong about them.  I think that's what I find so off-putting about them, although I can't put my finger on it, there seems something not quite right about their default looks--but since they didn't even start with something I consider to be an acceptable looking human face, it's hard to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.