Timberwolf, your image was very nice, very good setup, friend!

Bob, your image is nice too, good setup.

Actually, Bob, your renders here do look good, I forgot how they look in the RRN thread before you went to Reality/Lux, but I never was interested in those extreme different human sizes style so always ignored them (being honest).  Your last image and the images I've seen from you here do look good indeed as far as natural lighting and surfaces setups, just not my style that's all.

I really intended all that explanation for everyone, not anyone particular.  It was mentioned 'cause you mentioned that you couldn't get the 3Delight renders to look good so you went to Lux, and then don't want to go back 'cause of the "odd" lighting.  If you look at my renders at DA, you'll see what I mean by "experience" setups of lights/surfaces, as apposed to a lot of bad setups and very ugly renders I've seen produced by DS users, even Reality/Lux users.  Here's my DA page http://jamminwolfie.deviantart.com/  And my basic concept here is that if you want to produce nice art, you have to become an actual artist (like you, when you set up everything to look good via lights/surfaces, which your images do look good).  You can't just throw things in and expect a "Make art" button, especially in DS since most DS mats still aren't up to par in the marketplace (any marketplace, even Daz3D).