Fair enough it may be due to my conept I am pretty sure I may have had it when I rendered the figure at full scale. No matter I have no beef with post work.  I can get results like this. I was just seeing if perhaps there are other steps to try and as you suggest just to play around with material settings..

 

I do let them run between 6 to 9 hours some like the room scenes go much quicker it seems to vary...

 

I get results with Reality LUX that I cannot obtain with 3dlight so i dont mind.. As you seen I can produce 1/2 decent images and thats what really matters. Thanks again for taking the time.