DragonMagic59: I'm sorry to hear that. I think that Corel should try to FIX bugs rather then introduce new features and even MORE bugs. But then again, they are following Microsoft's lead... Anyhow, I've had the same problem with my sister's computer, it just bombs out with any of the old Bryce4 objects, however It runs bearly stable on my computer.. gosh I hate Corel. So I'm back on 4, bearly using 5, only if I have too, such as tree scenes, if needed.. Still waiting for Corel to get of their lazy butts and decide to do some long over due bug fixing to Bryce.