Good point. PC's have always been for "power users" IMHO. Speed and stability (with Win2K at least), easy to modify, and inexpensive. It's a case of "anything you (Mac) can do I (PC) can do better" ... and cheaper! My clients realize this when I send them the invoice ... I'm doing everything (and more) than so-call graphics-superior Mac-based business are doing for a lot less. (I realize other factors contribute to differences in company pricing, but computer cost is a major factor ... especially in low-overhead environment.) Ghost: Amiga users felt the same way. There are some die-hards still out there I suppose, but it is dead. I've used both Macs and PCs extensively and I don't hate Macs ... I just hate it when people assume that Macs are somehow superior to PCs. Is it just because they cost more?? Or do Mac users still think Windows is still in version 3.1? I don't know, but I'll drop it right here because this is an argument no one will ever win.