I wasn't complaining that SM didn't bundle more materials in Poser ;). I was complaining that the material room itself is a WHOLE lot harder than it has to be. I mean, it's a hobbyist program ffs. Why, in all these years (since I've had Poser 6) can't I figured out the material room? Why can't others? Because it's too convoluted and unnecessarily confusing compared to the rest of the program. Poser is the only program I use where I have problem with materials. I mean, why in the name of Mike would one need a shader that has more than a hundred nodes if something wasn't seriously STUPID in the material room? Sorry...I know BB knows what he's doing, but I think that's just insane...lol.

/rant

Laurie