Q: Les, the conformer is the "cloth" or is it the "human" who carries it?

A: The cloth.

Q: I read today that conformed items should be zero-pose memorized. Is this what you are pointing out?

A: It relates closely to what I said.

Q: I wonder now, if zero pose memorization is the only way, why doesnt poser just ignore the memorized parameters of a conformed item?

A: I'm not sure why. Perhaps it was that it allowed you to apply an offset to a joint rotation of the conformer in a way that would not be wiped out by using the 'Zero Rotations' command in the Joint Editor. But that's just a guess. Another reason might be that an end user might save a conformer back to the library in a none zero pose, and if conforming were working off the 'keys' values, a none zero pose would mess things up. The Memorized state is less likely to be changed by the end user than the pose. Whatever the reason, Poser does not use the 'keys' values in the conformer for rotetions, the conformer gets its rotations directly from the target figure.