Ermm.... I am just getting no joy.  I am back to trying it as mat file again. I save the materials , that all looks good it asks which surfaces to set (check the correct boxes), save it in poses (.DSF) change the extention to (.pz2). It shows up in the library. I load the original Poser version, Select it, find the .pz2, click it, It applies it (well something flashes up, its too quick to read) but nothing changes. Any other ideas?