lol I know who BB is.  Yes he can shout all he wants, hell I'm happy to see his input however it comes.  Feel a little sheepish that I didn't see his posts in the thread before I went posting GoodWill Hunting references though.  At least it's a compliment :)

I think I understood the second CAPS post after 3 reads, but I will have to read the first one over about 50 times before I understand what all that linear business was about.  I'm kinda hoping that one will sort itself out once I actually get the envsphere loaded and start setting these lights up.

• side note nostaglia - BB helped me get water right for an image I did like 4 years ago, called Conjugal Visit.  It is probably the best render for fun I have done yet.  One day I will hunt down that thread and resave those water settings 

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