I bough Edo as soon as I saw him. I'm just as thrilled and yes, the male body to me is beautiful. I figured the negatives would show up...it's just a continuation of what I mentally refer to as "the take over". I figure they've got tv and the newsmedia totally controlled and that should be enough. BTW...Newtek if any of you guys are lurking around...why not do a new proggie...a "real" human figure program...well, animals too g. You can even call it "Starman" (figure that'd work real well with "Lightwave") and there's no charge for the name!