I like genesis. I like that I can buy one outfit and use it on just about any character I make. There are a lot of things about Daz Studio that I like and there are a lot of things about Poser 2012 and 9 that I like. But the Daz store needs more work as it's a pain to shop there. I have always liked the forums here, but have never really gone to the Daz forums much and now am even more inclined to stay away. I understand that they want to move away from Poser with the M5 and V5 but I think they are making a big mistake. Poser has kept Daz alive all these years and if they continue to push away the Poser users they won't have much left. Daz Studio and genesis will never be enough to keep them afloat in my humble opinion. I will continue to work in Studio and Poser but the cost of the plugins and the fact that they don't really have an upgrade path on most of them,the plugins, will probably drive me back to Poser.