Apologies.. I did post without reading the rest of the thread... but now that I've gone back and re-read it, I still dont see the distinction between having the 'guts' of materials exposed with materials and shaders on offer from others vs a program where you feed the program an image and 'tell it to make it steel'.   There are still guts hidden in the program that tell it how to make that image look like steel.  Would it be different if poser had just bought a bunch of baggins bills shaders and incorporated them into a dropdown menu in the basic material room that the use could attach an image to.

 

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poser team.... Do exactly that!! it would be awesome!***

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I'm not interested in fighting with you or anyone...  and I am in no way looking down on you for not understanding the material room...  I dont mind playing with it and can grasp some things a little but half of what I do that ends up working I could not really say I understand exactly why

I just really dont get what you are after.. people may have latched onto 'preset' because what you described in your intitial post about what you would do in another program sounds exactly like a built in preset.... to me anyway.

 

 

Quote - meatsim before we carry on, please read the rest of the posts. we'll avoid fights.

I'm not sure why ppl have latched onto this preset thing. it's not what I was talking about from the start here. can we please drop it?