Hana-Hanabi, I don't have a clue. Cooper is out at Siggraph and it's really up to him to call it. I don't think we're technically showing them to the masses yet. They were supposed to be sneak peeked at Siggraph, which isn't the same thing as officially announced.  So I may end up sitting on these renders a bit longer (which is good...I could probably make better renders).