Well, my question is then, at least for BB's last part...why isn't there a node called glass? Or metal?...I mean, if we'd all come up with the same node setup that is ;). That's what other programs do (including Vue). They have glass and metal already as a preset and then you build off of that. It sure beats having to build the whole node setup for glass and metal and THEN having to add to that. Anyone else see where I'm coming from? Sure, it might SOUND like cheating, but it really isn't if it's something we'd all arrive at. The noodles just aren't friendly at all ;). And for as relatively easy as the rest of the program is, it's out of balance. I mean, maybe only a small percentage of us rig, but we ALL have to enter the material room at some time or other.

Laurie