Quote - Ah, i tend to render in bursts so right now i use M5 and V5 in Daz Studio, mainly M4 in Poser, a little of noth in Carrara and am learning to use M5 in Poser. Alas Bryce doesn't run on my machine and I would use that too...

Ok, I was surprised, because before SR3 clothing and hair was a big problem (even some with Cliffs scripts). And even now, you still have to deal with poke through in poses and lack of poser support for materials.  There is still a lot to do to make it as easy to use as the gen4 figures in Poser